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is the glycine in roundup derived from soy beans,,,,which is maybe why soy beans were the first to be soybean resistant?

http://dragon.zoo.utoronto.ca/~jlm-gmf/T0201A/herb1.htm

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http://www.weeds.iastate.edu/mgmt/qtr00 ... hdown2.htm

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Scott I don't understand why you think glyphosate and glycine are similar or how they relate to cough drops. I don’t know where they get there glycine but I get my glycine from the Fisher Scientific tree, or the Sigma-Aldrich bean.


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so you use glycine? it is the main part of GLY-phosate.....

"VIII. Synonyms
Substance Name -- Glyphosate
CASRN -- 1071-83-6
Last Revised -- 01/31/1987

1071-83-6
GLYCINE, N-(PHOSPHONOMETHYL)-
Glyphosate
MON 0573
N-(PHOSPHONOMETHYL)GLYCINE

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roundup is


glycine and what else?

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Don't be fooled by the name, N-(phosphonomethyl)-glycine is not glycine with a week ionic bond to a phospnonomethyl group. The carbon of the methyl group of the phosphonomethyl group is covalently bound to the nitrogen of the glycine group and does not freely disassociate in aqueous solution. One might say that the function of the structure is independent of the sum of the actions of its individual groups alone. It would be very safe to say that once you covalently bind anything to any part of glycine it is no longer glycine. 100% of the proteins in my body contain glycine but I would be quite distressed if you tried to use me as a lozenge. Likewise botulism toxin contains many glycine groups but attempting to define it in terms of its glycine groups is not very helpful at all. Does this make any sense?


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yeah it makes perfect sense but does roundup start with glycine as a part and then after getting cooked together with its other parts turn into glyphosate?

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Hmmmmmm. I don't know how they produce it but the different companies that make it probably have their own closely held proprietary secrets. This seems like more of a question for a chemical engineer, which I am most defiantly not.


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